3bet preflop - blinds (and other stats questions)

[black winter day]

That's why the Fold to PF 3-bet that I use in the Positional popup of my Advanced HUD don't account for whether or not they're from steal.

If you download the latest .pt3hud files and import them, you'll get the EP/MP/LP/Blinds stats for Fold to PF 3-bet.

But in your HUD thread, after the preflop positional stats popup picture, you said "Note that Fold to PF 3b only counts when you've open raised here, as that seems more important to me than times when one player raised,a second player reraised and you folded."

So, what do you mean now? Are they or aren't they account the steal factor?

[WhiteRider]

Kraada's comment doesn't mention steals, it mentions open-raises. Since he splits it up by position, those open-raises will be steals when the player is in the cutoff, button or SB and not steals in the other positions.

The point [I think] kraada is trying to get across is that his stat only counts those times the player made the initial raise and was re-raised, rather than facing a re-raise 'cold' (having not already raised, or called I assume, although I haven't actually checked the stat definition).

If you open his stat in the custom stats window then you can see exactly how it is built and what it is taking into account.
Custom Statistics and Reports FAQ.

[kraada]

WhiteRider is correct; I didn't want to have spots where you're on the button, UTG raised and the CO 3-bet count as times you face a 3-bet for the purpose of this stat.

So when I have Fold to 3-bet PF on that positional stat group it assumes that: (a) you made the first raise and (b) you folded to a 3-bet. Since it's by position, all open raises from the button/CO are steals. So nearly all of the LP opens are considered steals. But you should be aware of that anyway when you're looking at a guy in late position who is open raising . . .