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3bet preflop - blinds (and other stats questions)

Postby black winter day » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:37 am

I have imported a custom stat with that name, his description: Preflop 3Bet Percentage in Either Blind Position

and value expression: (cnt_p_3bet_blinds / cnt_p_3bet_opp_blinds) * 100

My question is: When i add it into the HUD, it also shows me the times it happened (for example 1/12). Is there a way to remove this explanation? I only want to leave the number of the 3bets from the blinds.

Also another stat BB fold to SB (How often the BB folded to a SB blind steal.):

if( cnt_p_BB_fold_to_SB_opp > 0, (cnt_p_BB_fold_to_SB / cnt_p_BB_fold_to_SB_opp) * 100, 0 )

when i put the cursor on it at the replayer, it doesnt show any description. Can it be added somehow?
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Re: 3bet preflop - blinds (and other stats questions)

Postby black winter day » Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:57 am

Also, question about a stat in kraada's layout:

Fold to 3bet, when raised and it wasn't a steal

kraada's explanation from the thread:

(Note that Fold to PF 3b only counts when you've open raised here, as that seems more important to me than times when one player raised, a second player reraised and you folded. Also, I've changed the player name in this example.)

I am confused here. If i open raise, someone 3bets me and i fold, what's different here from the stat in question?
The standard 3bet deals with situations when someone could limp, another player raises and another player 3bets as well. So, the difference is only that i open raise?
But if i do it from the button, for example, then it's a steal. And what does it have to do with "one player raised, a second player reraised and you folded". How is this relevant to folding preflop 3bet? In this case, if you are in the bb, for example, utg raises, button 3bets and you fold, it doesn't count in the standard "fold to 3bet" (at least, that's what i assume), it only counts when you were the raiser.

Can you clarify the situation for me, please?
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Re: 3bet preflop - blinds (and other stats questions)

Postby WhiteRider » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:31 am

black winter day wrote:I have imported a custom stat with that name, his description: Preflop 3Bet Percentage in Either Blind Position

and value expression: (cnt_p_3bet_blinds / cnt_p_3bet_opp_blinds) * 100

My question is: When i add it into the HUD, it also shows me the times it happened (for example 1/12). Is there a way to remove this explanation? I only want to leave the number of the 3bets from the blinds.

I assume you mean you want to see the percentage, not the absolute number of times?
The way it is shown is configured in the Format tab of the stat so you can change that.
Have a look at the Custom Statistics and Reports FAQ.

Also another stat BB fold to SB (How often the BB folded to a SB blind steal.):

if( cnt_p_BB_fold_to_SB_opp > 0, (cnt_p_BB_fold_to_SB / cnt_p_BB_fold_to_SB_opp) * 100, 0 )

when i put the cursor on it at the replayer, it doesnt show any description. Can it be added somehow?

Do you mean the built-in stat "Fold BB to SB Steal"? or is this a custom stat from somewhere else?
The built in stat shows a description in the tooltip for me.
Which version of PT3 are you using?
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Re: 3bet preflop - blinds (and other stats questions)

Postby WhiteRider » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:34 am

black winter day wrote:Also, question about a stat in kraada's layout:

Fold to 3bet, when raised and it wasn't a steal

kraada's explanation from the thread:

(Note that Fold to PF 3b only counts when you've open raised here, as that seems more important to me than times when one player raised, a second player reraised and you folded. Also, I've changed the player name in this example.)

I am confused here. If i open raise, someone 3bets me and i fold, what's different here from the stat in question?
The standard 3bet deals with situations when someone could limp, another player raises and another player 3bets as well. So, the difference is only that i open raise?
But if i do it from the button, for example, then it's a steal. And what does it have to do with "one player raised, a second player reraised and you folded". How is this relevant to folding preflop 3bet? In this case, if you are in the bb, for example, utg raises, button 3bets and you fold, it doesn't count in the standard "fold to 3bet" (at least, that's what i assume), it only counts when you were the raiser.

Can you clarify the situation for me, please?

The point of this stat is that it removes the times that you made a steal raise and only counts those times you open raised from positions outside the steal positions - i.e. you probably behave differently if a steal raise is reraised than if you open-raised in an earlier position.
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Re: 3bet preflop - blinds (and other stats questions)

Postby black winter day » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:09 pm

WhiteRider wrote:
black winter day wrote:I have imported a custom stat with that name, his description: Preflop 3Bet Percentage in Either Blind Position

and value expression: (cnt_p_3bet_blinds / cnt_p_3bet_opp_blinds) * 100

My question is: When i add it into the HUD, it also shows me the times it happened (for example 1/12). Is there a way to remove this explanation? I only want to leave the number of the 3bets from the blinds.

I assume you mean you want to see the percentage, not the absolute number of times?
The way it is shown is configured in the Format tab of the stat so you can change that.
Have a look at the Custom Statistics and Reports FAQ.

Also another stat BB fold to SB (How often the BB folded to a SB blind steal.):

if( cnt_p_BB_fold_to_SB_opp > 0, (cnt_p_BB_fold_to_SB / cnt_p_BB_fold_to_SB_opp) * 100, 0 )

when i put the cursor on it at the replayer, it doesnt show any description. Can it be added somehow?

Do you mean the built-in stat "Fold BB to SB Steal"? or is this a custom stat from somewhere else?
The built in stat shows a description in the tooltip for me.
Which version of PT3 are you using?


I am using the 25 beta.
About the 2nd question, yes, apparently i used the custom stat, but the same stat already exists as a built in, so i will switch to that.

About the 1st question: Yes, i only want to see, for example 10%, not 8% (1/10) etc, cause it takes up to much space. I read kraada's post, but it seems too complicated. Can you tell me, please, in steps, what i should do to show just the %?
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Re: 3bet preflop - blinds (and other stats questions)

Postby black winter day » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:26 pm

black winter day wrote:
WhiteRider wrote:
black winter day wrote:I have imported a custom stat with that name, his description: Preflop 3Bet Percentage in Either Blind Position

and value expression: (cnt_p_3bet_blinds / cnt_p_3bet_opp_blinds) * 100

My question is: When i add it into the HUD, it also shows me the times it happened (for example 1/12). Is there a way to remove this explanation? I only want to leave the number of the 3bets from the blinds.

I assume you mean you want to see the percentage, not the absolute number of times?
The way it is shown is configured in the Format tab of the stat so you can change that.
Have a look at the Custom Statistics and Reports FAQ.

Also another stat BB fold to SB (How often the BB folded to a SB blind steal.):

if( cnt_p_BB_fold_to_SB_opp > 0, (cnt_p_BB_fold_to_SB / cnt_p_BB_fold_to_SB_opp) * 100, 0 )

when i put the cursor on it at the replayer, it doesnt show any description. Can it be added somehow?

Do you mean the built-in stat "Fold BB to SB Steal"? or is this a custom stat from somewhere else?
The built in stat shows a description in the tooltip for me.
Which version of PT3 are you using?


I am using the 25 beta.
About the 2nd question, yes, apparently i used the custom stat, but the same stat already exists as a built in, so i will switch to that.

About the 1st question: Yes, i only want to see, for example 10%, not 8% (1/10) etc, cause it takes up to much space. I read kraada's post, but it seems too complicated. Can you tell me, please, in steps, what i should do to show just the %?


I want to get this straight: Let's say we'll talk about fold to 3bet in the blinds. He opens from SB, i raise him from BB, he folds. That's what this stat means? How is it different in this case, than the regular "fold to 3bet" stat?
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Re: 3bet preflop - blinds (and other stats questions)

Postby WhiteRider » Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:43 am

black winter day wrote:Yes, i only want to see, for example 10%, not 8% (1/10) etc, cause it takes up to much space. I read kraada's post, but it seems too complicated. Can you tell me, please, in steps, what i should do to show just the %?

Delete the format expression, and enter:
/%.2f
..instead. This will show a number to 2 decimal places, but the HUD is configured to show 0 decimal places and that will override it.
This sort of stuff is explained in the Custom Statistics and Reports FAQ that I linked for you.

black winter day wrote:I want to get this straight: Let's say we'll talk about fold to 3bet in the blinds. He opens from SB, i raise him from BB, he folds. That's what this stat means? How is it different in this case, than the regular "fold to 3bet" stat?

If you are talking about the stat from "his" (the SB's) point of view, then this situation will be counted in the stats "Fold to 3Bet", "Fold to PF 3Bet", "Fold Steal to Blind Reraise", etc., but NOT by Kraada's "Fold to 3bet, when raised and it wasn't a steal".
"Fold to 3bet, when raised and it wasn't a steal" won't count it as an action or an opportunity because the SB's original raise was a steal, so for this one hand the stat will be N/A.
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Re: 3bet preflop - blinds (and other stats questions)

Postby black winter day » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:15 pm

Ok, i understand.
Does a custom stat exist, where it's just fold to 3bet preflop by positions w/o the all the steal filters etc?
I want to know all the folds to 3bets, not only when it wasn't vs a steal.

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Re: 3bet preflop - blinds (and other stats questions)

Postby WhiteRider » Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:51 pm

If you split them by position then whether it's a steal or not almost becomes irrelevant (because you can't steal from positions earlier than the cutoff, and if you open-raise after that then it is always a steal).
I'm not aware of these stats existing, but you could have a look through the Repository.

IF you want to build your own, you will find examples of positional stats in the repository (or in kraada's HUD) and you can duplicate the existing stat that you want (which I guess is Fold to PF 3Bet, although you might want a different variant if you want only times the player made the initial raise) and add the check for position, and build a stat for each position.
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Re: 3bet preflop - blinds (and other stats questions)

Postby kraada » Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:09 pm

That's why the Fold to PF 3-bet that I use in the Positional popup of my Advanced HUD don't account for whether or not they're from steal.

If you download the latest .pt3hud files and import them, you'll get the EP/MP/LP/Blinds stats for Fold to PF 3-bet.
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