Advanced HUD, puzzling 3bet-fold description

[PeteX]

Kraada,

I was looking at the description of "Fold to PF 3Bet When Raised"-stat and it reads: "Fold to Preflop 3Bet Percentage When Hero Open Raised And It Wasn't A Steal"

Is that 100% accurate? What is "Hero" doing there?

[kraada]

Hero is opened the pot with a raise from a non-steal position (that is, not the CO/Button/SB). He faces a 3-bet.

This stat is the percentage of the time that he folds to that 3-bet (of times that he faces it).

Note that for the positional stats, though, the "not a steal" part is removed. So fold to 3-bet PF from LP is any time you open raise in LP.

[PeteX]

Hmm... What?

This is the 2nd stat on the General-group. Shouldn't that PFR - colored and colored by how often villain folds when hero 3-bets HIS open raise? Or have I misunderstood how you use the PFR - colored stat on the general group?

I understood it like this:
- The number shows the range of villains raising, which is the standard PFR
- The color shows how easy it is to get the villain to fold when I 3-bet his open-raise

Why would you want to see any information about "Hero" on the general group?

EDIT: Ahha, you use the same "PFR - Colored" on the Hero stats group, so the description just applies there. And on the General-group, it works like I mention above? Right?

[kraada]

The stat on the general group is how often a player FOLDS given all of these other conditions.

Let me give an example, perhaps that will clear it up. (I completely made up these numbers, apologies if they're a bit far from reality.)

Say we have 500 hands on some player, call him A.

A has open raised 100 times in his 500 hands from non-steal positions. Of those 100 raises, he was 3-bet 40 times. Of the times he faced a 3-bet (those 40 times), he folded 15 times. (Note: The stat does not take into account who did the 3betting, just that someone did.)

A's Fold to 3-bet PF NvBS would be 15 / 40 or 37.5% and A's PFR - colored would be colored in yellow.

I put the same stat on the hero group figuring that we might as well use the same stat there rather than just PFR. If you've been 3 bet 4 times in a session and folded to all of them, that will tell you something about your table image.

[PeteX]

Yep, you described it exactly as I assumed. It was just the word "Hero" on the description and the appearance of the stat on the "General"-group that confused me.

[kraada]

Ah, I see. Hero there meant "for the guy this stat is about" not Hero as in you . . . but I think we got that cleared up now :)