(Player) Call PreFlop Raise: What is this?

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(Player) Call PreFlop Raise: What is this?

Postby p1rado » Wed May 14, 2008 3:56 pm

What is the Call PreFlop Raise stat and what is the difference between Call PreFlop Raise versus Cold Call

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Re: (Player) Call PreFlop Raise: What is this?

Postby kraada » Wed May 14, 2008 4:02 pm

All Cold Calls [CC] are Call PreFlop Praise [CPFR], but not all CPFR are CC.

A cold call is when you call one (or more) raises when you have no money in the pot.

So you are on the button, the guy under the gun raises, if you just call, it's a cold call.

If you were under the guy, and you raised, and the button reraised and you just called, you did call a pre-flop raise (his 3-bet counts as a raise) but you did not call cold (because you had already put money in).
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Re: (Player) Call PreFlop Raise: What is this?

Postby p1rado » Wed May 14, 2008 6:04 pm

And if I'm either a blind and call a pre-flop raise, what is it?
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Re: (Player) Call PreFlop Raise: What is this?

Postby kraada » Wed May 14, 2008 7:11 pm

Well, it's certainly a Call PFR.

I'm not sure if it's a Cold Call. Since you have some money in the pot though (even though it's blind), I'd imagine not, but I'm not 100% sure. You could go into PokerTracker though and filter for times you were a blind and called a raise preflop and see what it ends up being . . .
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Re: (Player) Call PreFlop Raise: What is this?

Postby WhiteRider » Thu May 15, 2008 5:31 am

I agree - it doesn't count as a Cold Call if you are in the blind, because you already have money in the pot.
This was debated a while ago, and it was decided to stick with the strict definition for the default stat. If you want a variant on cold call where you haven't voluntarily put money in before calling a raise, you can build a Custom Statistic.
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Re: (Player) Call PreFlop Raise: What is this?

Postby p1rado » Thu May 15, 2008 7:31 am

Build a Custom Statistic?

How to?

And I think the definition of Call PFR is missing here: http://www.pokertracker.com/products/PA ... page=stats

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Re: (Player) Call PreFlop Raise: What is this?

Postby WhiteRider » Thu May 15, 2008 2:16 pm

See Custom Stats and Custom Reports under the documentation.
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