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Is PT4 gonna change this year ?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 12:39 pm
by Costel
Today it is 29.10.2013. Just 2 months until the New Year will come.
Me and many other guys made here some very important feature requests. You said that they will be made until the last months of this year. Well, the feature is now ! Where are the requested features ? None implemented in PT4. Are you gonna do something ? When (this time) ?

At least make it to import hands much more faster. We need this because nowadays many guys are buying hand histories so we do not want to wait 20 years to import 5 or 10 million hands into database.

Thanks !

Re: Is PT4 gonna change this year ?

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:57 pm
by kraada
Are you on the latest PT4 version? There were significant improvements in 4.10.x over 4.09.x in import speed for all fast fold variants.

Re: Is PT4 gonna change this year ?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:55 am
by Costel
kraada wrote:Are you on the latest PT4 version? There were significant improvements in 4.10.x over 4.09.x in import speed for all fast fold variants.

What about the others ?
What about Note Tracker improvement ?
What about Player Auto-rating ?
What about holdem heat map old request ? https://www.pokertracker.com/forums/vie ... 59&t=48266

Re: Is PT4 gonna change this year ?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:50 am
by Costel
kraada wrote:Are you on the latest PT4 version? There were significant improvements in 4.10.x over 4.09.x in import speed for all fast fold variants.

"significant improvements" ???

Just look here: https://www.pokertracker.com/forums/vie ... 59&t=45456
On Sun Dec 09, 2012:
With Apply treat as option checked, the importing speed is 18 h/s. Very low !
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Without Apply treat as option checked, the speed is 24 h/s:
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Now, after ONE year, in 31-Oct-2013, WITHOUT Apply treat as option checked, the speed is 42 h/s... almost double than before but still useless and very low:
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This is very low even compared to the OLD Holdem Manager 1 which is 100 h/s:
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In Holdem Manager 2 the speed is HUGE compared to Holdem Manager 1 and amazing compared to actually Poker Tracker 4.

Let's do some maths:
Supposing I buy 10.000.000 hands from a site as very many guys do nowadays.
10.000.000 (h) / 42 (h/s) = 238095.238095...seconds
238095.238095...seconds / 60 s (which is 1 minute) = 3968.253968... minutes
3968.253968... minutes / 60 minutes (which is 1 hour) = 66.137566... hours
66.137566... hours / 24 hours (which is 1 day) = 2.75573... days. Tooo long !!!

Let's see for HEM 1:
10.000.000 (h) / 100 (h/s) = 100.000 s
100.000 s / 60 s = 1666.(6) minutes
1666.(6) minutes / 60 = 27.(7) hours.
=> Almost ONE day long. This is cool ! <= This is in HEM1. In HEM 2 the speed is huge compared to HEM 1. Imagine how fast all work would have been done !

Any comments ? :D

Re: Is PT4 gonna change this year ?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:00 pm
by kraada
I'm sorry you don't think cutting the time in half is sufficient, but it was the product of significant work. Our import routines and their import routines work very differently and comparing "hands per second" numbers is extremely misleading given the differences.

I'm not going to go into great detail here though because at this point we are focusing on other things, and I don't know of plans to work on the import speeds again for a while.

Re: Is PT4 gonna change this year ?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 1:31 pm
by Costel
kraada wrote:I'm sorry you don't think cutting the time in half is sufficient, but it was the product of significant work. Our import routines and their import routines work very differently and comparing "hands per second" numbers is extremely misleading given the differences.

I'm not going to go into great detail here though because at this point we are focusing on other things, and I don't know of plans to work on the import speeds again for a while.

What are the other things you are focusing on ?

Re: Is PT4 gonna change this year ?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:48 pm
by kraada
You should know by now that we do not disclose our exact feature roadmap publicly. When the new features are ready, they will be released.

Re: Is PT4 gonna change this year ?

PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:11 am
by Costel
kraada wrote:You should know by now that we do not disclose our exact feature roadmap publicly. When the new features are ready, they will be released.

I think your programmers team is in vacation and that's you say this ^. :D