delayed cbet

[WhiteRider]

I'll take a look at the data I have when I have some time, but if you can narrow down a smaller set of hands where you think the values are wrong and attach them to a Support Ticket we'll be happy to confirm for you. Nothing leaps out at me as being wrong in your logic, but it's possible there's a case we're missing, or a case the stat is getting wrong - I will need to review it in more detail. The stat expressions are pretty simple, but it's possible they count a situation incorrectly.

[WhiteRider]

Sorry for the delay getting back to you about this. I believe that the discrepancy in your figures comes from the fact that Float Flop (and Fold to F Float) don't count 3Bet+ preflop pots, and in multiway hands on the flop there can be a float bet then a raise behind you which means that you don't face a float bet. Therefore there are more hands to be omitted from the total than the ones specified by "facing a float or a probe", and I believe that the delayed turn CBet stat is showing the correct data.

[TRNSLTR]

Ok, as long as the stat is showing the right data I'm all good. Thanks for the info!

Btw how come the float bet doesn't count 3bet+ pots?

[kraada]

Float was originally defined as just calling one street to bet and take it away the street after and thus a 2bet pot only was implied.

[regularfish]

Guys can someone help me, what do I need to change if I want to use it for tournaments?
I've changed "cash" to "tourney" but obviously the database tables are not the same so it looks it is not that simple

Thanks,

[kraada]

There's a built in conversion mechanism -- just click Options -> Convert on the stat in the cash side and PT4 will do the rest.

[regularfish]

thanks again kraada!

[live4therisk]

You want this instead for your delayed cbet success column:

sum(if[cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_t_bet AND
cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet_opp AND
lookup_actions_f.action='X' and not(cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_r_saw or cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_t_face_raise), 1, 0])

This column makes sure you bet the turn after checking the flop when you could've cbet the flop, and that you didn't see the river or face a raise on the turn - so you must have won with all opponents folding.

Im trying to create this column, but I get Invalid SQL?

sum(if[cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_t_bet AND
cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet_opp AND
lookup_actions_f.action='X' and not(cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_r_saw or cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_t_face_raise), 1, 0])

[Flag_Hippo]

Try this:

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sum(if[cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_t_bet AND cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_f_cbet_opp AND lookup_actions_f.action='X' and not (cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_r_saw or cash_hand_player_statistics.flg_t_face_raise), 1, 0])

[live4therisk]

Thx works great!